Monday, February 12, 2007

Is The Secret Satanic?

Is The Secret Satanic?

One of the commenters on one of my earlier posts believes so. If you scroll to the end of the comments, you'll find me offering my own take on this:

I don't believe that you can instantly dismiss any action or intention that someone sets as being a Satanic process. There's a big difference between setting the intention to be able to afford a nice house, take care of your family, and provide for your loved ones and doing something excessively greedy (like intending to own all of Manhattan.) :)

Here in the US, yearly inflation and cost of living increases mean that you have to earn at least 4% more than you did last year....even if all you do is sit in one place. So even people who already own property are dealing with increases in food costs, gas and transportation costs, and other inflation to the point where if you DON'T master certain techniques for manifesting a flow of abundance, you simply can't survive. And I'm not talking about living in a McMansion, either. I mean simply providing food, shelter, and transportation to and from work takes a lot of money these days. Therefore, I continue to state my own view that movies like The Secret and What the Bleep bring forth very important teachings about the nature of human creativity, the power of the human mind, and the miraculous field of energy that surrounds us in our daily lives.....and we NEED to be utilizing these ideas if we wish to be responsible human beings.

There's a big difference between exploiting others (in a Satanic sense) and simply expressing your full potentials as a human being so you can take proper care of yourself and your family.

The law of attraction is a neutral law. Like gravity. Since there are so few teachers out there teaching us about this, it's important not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Sure, you may laugh at Oprah or find that gnomish guy Joe Vitale and his whole "hypnotic marketing" shtick repellant, but if you look at the core of what The Secret's teachers are promoting, it's good, spiritually appropriate stuff.

In my opinion, being a spiritual person who does service for others as a part of her path while at the same time manifesting a comfortable livelihood for herself and her family is NOT Satanic.

I don't believe that God wants me to suffer. He wants me to explore my divine potentials and my creative possibilities to uplift myself AND others.

I can help people a LOT MORE if I'm not starving and if my family isn't destitute from being unable to afford proper medical care, food, and shelter.

So why is it that so many religious people equate being able to provide for yourself financially with being Satanic?

Doesn't add up to me.

28 Comments:

At 4:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In Christianity you do not sustain yourself. It is only with God's help that you survive. I think when Christians hear that you have the power within yourself to change your life they automatically think of Satanism. While this observation is not "Satanism according to LaVey" it does share similarities, specifically the self as the greatest priority.

You ask how can you help others if you are poor and starving. God, in Christianity, has almost always used the poor and hungry to help others and spread his word.

There is no greater evil than the one cloaked in good intentions. It is the ultimate deception.

 
At 4:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

All religious people don't think money is evil. I'm one of them! And a LOT of the teachers are christians too. How can you live in this world without it? Money is money, it's people who are good or evil and sell their souls for it, money is just a means to actually LIVE in this world, clothes you, feed you, buy a home. If it's earned with honesty there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I'm a Christian and I don't believe that we were meant to survive, we were meant to enjoy the epitomy of happiness letting The Divine Spirit aka God express Himself through us. And I mean by that giving us a life beyond what we could imagine.

We were created in his image, we have the power of creation, the mind being the beginning of everyone of our creations. Why would God NOT want abundance for us? Why wouldn't He want me to be financially free, healthy, have great friends, great spirituality, have an amazing spouse & family? God told us ASK AND YE SHALL RECEIVE, is it by chance? Why can't I ask him to have abundance in all areas of my life and share this happiness with others?

Is Chris Gardner (Puirsuit of happyness) evil because he went from broke to rich, all of this with prayers (he's a christian), belief, hard work and integrity? Is Oprah evil for succeeding in something that she loves?

God is our source of abundance and well-being. He gave us free will, that is why I choose to be on his team. and I choose to be a testimony of HOW GOOD God is to his children. I'm blessed and it shows. I've seen miracles after miracles in my life, and things that TO THIS DAY I still find hard to believe happened to me. I've been healed when the doctors said I would NEVER be, not in a million years. I've had money when I thought I would have never been able to live "decently".

I've met religious people who are the most miserable and bitter people in the world, do you really think a God of LOVE wanted this for you? You will never be sick enough to save sick people, or broke enough to help broke people.

If we were ALL aware that trusting God 100% and make the first step to achieve our dreams was all we had to do to open ourselves up to greater and greater blessings, we wouldn't experience fear, and there would be no greed, competition or jealousy because in reality WE DO NOT WANT OR NEED THE SAME THINGS deep down inside! Your life that God gave you was meant to be an amazing experience! There's a seed of truth in ALL OF US that KNOWS that we were NOT meant to live in lack and constant sufferings.

 
At 9:37 PM, Anonymous kerivoice said...

Thank you for saying that. "Ask and you shall receive." It does say that in the Bible. God is wonderful! And He wants wonderful things for us! He loves us:)

 
At 6:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is satanic. If you are not praying to the God of the Holy Bible, then who are you praying to? You may enjoy being seduced by demons for a season if in fact that should fancy it, but you will not be partaking in any secret other than the one I am about to tell you. (YOUR ON YOUR WAY TO HELL). Good luck though on your journey.

 
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At 8:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

to the above, http://www.keyofwealth.com/pat/7%20laws.htm

this is imperialistic and evil. i can't believe you think the universe is giving you trips around the world to places where you are doing nothing but polluting, getting fatter and spreading your lies... what a scam.

in general, i think the 'law of the universe' is a bunch of b.s. and of course you will get what you want - it's called karma... but, it doesn't always end up so great. i'd venture to say that these fools will reap what they sow, in cancer, car wrecks or some other vices. yeah, have fun with your wishful thinking. try to visualize the end of illegal sex trade or something useful... try sending your money to charity.

 
At 9:31 AM, Anonymous Amber Rainsberry said...

I have been very inspired by the secret but am struggling with this "satanic" issue as well. I actually am not very religious but was raised Christian and pray daily. I think the law of attraction is very powerful and the Secret teached that is is THE MOST POWERFUL LAW IN THE UNIVERSE. I notice that the Secret is spreading across the universe and envision that millions will start doing this and will see the changes in their lives. This will make people even more confident that the law of attraction, the secret works. The Secret says that if we all start to use the secret that we can change this negative force that has taken over the world, by negative force I mean, the "i don't want" this mentality. It is everywhere...I have stopped listening to half of my cds because when I speak the words,I realize they are negative and are going to attract more negativity.

So say we get millions on board believing and using the secret. The book consistently quotes the bible, right? Points out that Jesus and other spiritual people used this. In Revelations, it says that there will be an Anti-Christ coming in the form of Jesus. I could see this being the Anti-Christ, millions of people will be together a very strong force, they will begin to use the power to gain world peace (another foreshadowing in the bible of the end). If millions see that they can get rid of the bad in the world with our minds, faith in God may weaken. There will be less thoughts of armageddon. That is exactly what Satan wants, he wants the world to forget that he exists, by eliminating the BAD, we will believe he is gone, or not a real thing. The masses will believe that by using their minds, they can go on living forever, they can prevernt their body from aging, which is a lovely thought but I just worry about if this is conflicting with the bible.

Also, I am not sure about meditation. The secret says that all teachers of the secret meditated. I was raised that meditation opens your mind and allows the demons to get into your body. The bible says the meditate on it, on the teaching if the bible every day and night. Transcendental meditation has been a topic of controvery by Christians for decades. The goal of Satan is to keep people out of the bible, I found this quote: " the Adversary majors in three things: noise, hurry, and crowds". (http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=989)
The noise could be the inner thought we all will have to create what we want. The hurry is the push to spread this info out fast, to show results quickly and to spread it to the masses creating a crowd of millions that will be focusing on this day and night and not on the bible.

In summary, I do believe the Law of Attraction works. I do believe it can be used positively and can be used by Christians without becoming demonic. And I want to practice it. I have become obsessed with The Secret myself, went out and bought several books supporting it, and have seen a major impact in less than 2 weeks. But we need to keep a close eye on our mind and don't allow ourselves to forget about God and Satan. Don't forget that the signs of the times are present and the end is coming. If we can practice the secret and still remain focused on our obedience to the Bible and God, I think this could be a very positive thing for everyone to experience.

 
At 1:15 PM, Blogger Eric said...

Amber -

I would be curious to hear how you would stay true to God and the Bible while practicing what is taught in the Secret.

I feel that people are unwittingly playing with the devil.

I agree with most of what you said, especially the part about forgetting GOD. He is a GOD of love, but also a GOD of justice.

Anything that is outside of faith in GOD is sin. That may sound extreme, but that is what the Bible says.

 
At 7:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amber you are contradicting yourself.The point of all this, is the danger involved believing in prosperity coming out of you and not out of god.Believing you ,alone, can make good things happen, believing peace and order is at the reach of your hand, by your merit.
All this leads to the question what do you need god for? Remember the reason Satan fell into sin was for believing himself equal to god and wanting angels to adore him as such.
We humans are imperfect beings.yes we were created at god's image but Adam's and eve's sin made us imperfect.We are the result of generations and generations of this "error".It is in our genetic code, it is why we die, it is why we get sick, the sin is imprinted in us.
If we were put alone in the world, without god's or Satan's influence, we still would end up in chaos and destruction.
Remember;We are saved not by our own merits but by god's grace.

 
At 10:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

IT is using the power of demons to give you what you want with nothing to make sure it is in balance with what the rest of the world needs but your own desires. It is wish fulfillment and witchcraft and all of that comes from demons and satan. You are playing around with witchcraft and you don't even know it. Pray to God and God will give you what you NEED and what is for the Greatest good. Remember, your reward is in Heaven, we are here to learn and take part in God's process. It really doesn't matter whether or not you have a nice car or are rich, as long as you are fulfilling God's purpose for you and doing His will.

 
At 12:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As i see people many people interpret The secret with many names: God,Satan,Sciense,Universe,Sun and so on. Each and every tribe beliefs vary according to their life circumstances and culture. Worshipping your inner 'God' or however you may call your potential of creativity is oftenly mistaken by many religious people as ethical egoism or satanism which is a pure folly in my opinion. If one wishes to spend his life with a healthy family, food and shelter, it is up to him to do so. Taken as granted, they do not expect an afterlife, because there is none.(No offence to believers). Martyrs lived their lives by pushing their limits, in some sort sodomizing their own temple;their body.And for what? To achieve purity and then ascend to heavens as written in the bible. But what God really told us is to ASK AND YE SHALL RECEIVE. So if someone prefers being a doctor and save lives instead of living on total solitude in a Sahara desert meditating i totally see the reason...this is THE greatest gift we were given, yet we all await the end of it.Throwing away your life by pretending to be a caring person in order to spend your 'afterlife' in bliss is not life's purpose.

 
At 9:02 AM, Anonymous Carol said...

http://www.gotquestions.org/secret-law-attraction.html

The message of "The Secret" is the same message that Satan used to tempt Adam and Eve into sin: "You do not need God...you can be God!" And just as Satan will fail in his quest to be God (Isaiah 14:15; Revelation 20:10), so too will all those who seek to be their own god will fail: "'You are "gods" ... but you will die like mere men..." (Psalm 82:6-7).

 
At 11:31 PM, Blogger Magic Man said...

the word god comes from the idea of good. good for all is what god is. not good for one or for four. to solely focus on the self either as a good christian or a satnist is not good.

rather than focusing the secret/law of attraction on the self if it were to be applied to summon goodness, long overdue planet-wide, we might get somewhere good.

until or unless that, we shall muck about helplessly.

god may not be an entity but rather an energy defined by eternal and infinite goodness from the human pov.

 
At 5:18 PM, Blogger fatherinfidel said...

Is the Secret Satanic?

Not a Christian, but i'm somewhat familiar with the scriptures and will take a stab at an answer.

No. and Yes.

No-> it IS biblical to be a good steward of what God has gracefully given you to care for, during your stay in his earthly kingdom, and that includes your mind, body, and financial/emotional life, and those of your family and possibly All. So using God-given tools to take care of God-given business hardly sounds satanic to me.
The practice of mental, or any other, techniques for the purpose of positive change in your consciousness would seem to be, in and of itself, neutral in terms of sin towards any of the major religions of our time(that i can think of).

Also, Yes-> If one forgets that their self, and all of it's attributes, mental, physical, financial, geographical, etc. are All given by God, (even the one's you fight for and earn and hone, it was done with a freely given will with freely given attributes) then we have the deadly sin of Pride, as i understand it.
This secret, or any other technique or anything of any kind, if done in a spirit of pride (in the sense that you feel you don't need God because u can just rely on your self) WOULD be satanic, or at least serious Sin, in the eyes of YHVH, Yahweh God.
Lots of examples in the Old Testament, and the idea was strong in the New Testament as well, like when prideful king (bah, the one that tried to kill Jesus) in his silver robes let people talk about how he was a god was killed on the spot with parasitic worms in the height of his pride, and the couple that didn't donate all of their money to the early church, but said they did, were killed by God right there on the spot- it's kind of the central theme through and through- rely on God not yourself. that's all i have to say about that.

~Father Infidel
InfidelChurch.com

 
At 8:24 AM, Blogger Tidwell said...

as far as i'm cocnerned as a preparing to be "born again" christian all the "Cautioners against transcednetla meditation" are satanic themselves and should get away from us.

You know what It ihnk?I think the DIVINE WILL commands us to "live as one" and if anyone has a problem with that then I have a problem with them. All for one and one for all.

 
At 8:27 AM, Blogger Tidwell said...

There's a satanicly inspired conspiracy to point fingers at things that aren't satan and whine about the new age stuff and try to "Scare people" away from converting and reentering the churches.

that's right. He's playing both sides.

http://www.mindreality.com/universal-and-personal-aspect-of-god

 
At 8:29 AM, Blogger Tidwell said...

http://www.mindreality.com/truth-about-satan-and-his-real-agenda-for-all

http://www.mindreality.com/knowing-god-through-enlightenment-and-salvation

 
At 8:33 AM, Blogger Tidwell said...

I want to break down every wall between us. Tell me. How is that WICKED? I know "john lennon" seperated us from "jesus being the savior" but a lot of good christians probably learned "the world should live as one" and still believed in Christ. This hyper paranoid ever constant demonization of things coming out of the churches has the stench of wanting to control the money written all over it. If we act as one economic interest our controllers? HAHAHAHAHAHA> THE CHAOS THAT WOULD BRING? And that's EXACTLY what they deserve. Satan is trying to make us feel like our economic interest are SEPERATE. NEWS FLASH: THEY AREN'T

 
At 8:42 AM, Blogger Tidwell said...

http://www.mindreality.com/winning-without-fighting-is-highest-victory

don't shoot the messenger.

 
At 12:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some people attribute satanic principles to the nature of the secret because of its vanity. (I personally feel that wishful thinking doesn't make sports cars materialize without hard work.) Anyways, in the movie, "The Secret" the viewer is told to imagine the universe and its abundance as some genie that will grant wishes.. Historically jinns are demonic spirits, even in Alladin, before being able to make his wishes he is told to sign a contract without giving it much thought. This was some fairly obvious symbolism. I think that if everybody somehow got what they wanted materially this very second, all the fish and trees would be gone and we'd all be dead. We need more then vague positive ideologies. We need an extremely elaborate plan of sustainability so that us humans don't embark on a very slow and boring version of Armageddon as a result of ignorance. Which can be bliss. Which is the secret.

 
At 5:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

its simply drawing yourself into a relm that is called witchcraft, you dont want to mess with those satanic forces.

 
At 6:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

im not trying to discredit anyone or anything but someone here said evils greatest cloak is good intentions and i have noticed alot of people referring to the bible,now most christians believe that if they give in or surrender to the divine or the all or even jesus himself that god will take care of you feed you cloth you etc[sound familiar yet?] and it works for them they live it and see the truth in his teachings because they BELIEVE in him and in god so their beliefs manifest ...on the other hand satan tells you if you give him your soul he will give you wealth and health you could never imagine now i dont know about the rest of you people but both stories appear too similar for me to say either is diffrent you choose to say tow-may-tow n i say tow-ma-tow both sides are one in the same just most people are too dumb to see past the illusion that is created by the same beings(humans)...religion,the bible mainly is a tool that is used by intelligent people to gain control and power and deceive the masses into living the way that king james and henry etc wanted the people to live ...its actually quite genius how they use books to disempower you by taking the power given to you by ancestors(thought) and manipulate you into believing in external beings control every aspect of your life and that you have no power to change anything unless you take the powers u have and invest them into these beings lol the bible along with many other "holy" books is one of the greatest tools used for disempowering the human race and is still used worldwide centuries later thats how u know they people who did this were pretty smart they knew if you can control the collective conciousness you can control its power...christianity and most other religions have been infiltrated a very long time ago and is being utilized to control the masses it teaches to give in your soul to a savier be it god or satan so that you can live eternaly happily what ever therefor giving up your powers and abilities to control your dominion or universe...as far as the secret goes it is also a tool given to us or passed on to us by our very ancestors going back to the origins of creation like how we pass on genes to our children to help them survive in the cold or hot climates or the knowledge we pass on to our children to help them eat and live,i bet most of u dumbasses dont even realise the secret behind what the secret is trying to teach and that is the problem with the secret it subliminaly teaches people what is considered a good or bad life or wat is considered rich or poor wich in terms eventually ends up dividing the people from spirituality and divine oneness equality etc by seperating them from rich and poor and good and bad it teaches you to only let in the good energy when energy has no good side nor bad side it is nuetral people give everything its value and meaning and to elevate humanity we can not block out negative force we just simply have to embrace it and give love ...by the way i notice alot of people thinking that negative forces are more abundant then positive this is untrue dont listen to the news and media just do your own research people are alot happier than sad things are more good than bad and think about it this way it is what it is we only have problems because we perceive them that way animals dont have any issues lol they just live

 
At 6:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

am i the only person that finds the bible to be the most contradictive text known to man lol firstly il say this ive read enough of it to know that it does not condone idol worship and things of that sort and then it turns around and tells you to believe in jesus...?wtf pray in jesus name lol how the hell are people not realising this are they choosing to ignore the bibles inconsistancies it contradicts it self from one page to the next from one story to the next the shit just dont make sense thats how you know it was an ancienct book of government or something like our legal system today tells you what and what not to do while contradiciting itself countless times WAKE UP DUMB ASS PEOPLE ...that was wrong im sorry uve just been decieved not ur fault i hope

 
At 4:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow, cant believe this is getting so far fetched!! the secret isnt satanic.. your looking at this in the wrong way - we cannot even start to grasp what science has in store for us!! basically what this comes down to is that as a person, country or universe the multiverse exists its like a computer game!! even though you walk straight ahead the coding allows for left turns and right turns!! only all of this happens at ones in our universe!! nobody is going to hell by applying the secret.. your just trying to choose the right route, a route that by the way, God created.. if you can tap into your potential you theoretically should be able to do whatever you like!! if a guy in church has one leg thag is 5cm shorter than the other and everybody starts praying, and his leg grows longer, do you think God decided, hey lets intervene with nature and grow his leg?? no, when he put the foundations of earth down he created it, created us, with the potential and everything else we need to do it ourselves- you just have to figure out how!! and im not saying the secret is the answer to this- but it most definately is a start!!

 
At 2:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's an evil lure. "s"atan has a Ph.D on disguising himself into things. Do a further research and investigation and you will see what's behind that flowery words. We cannot cheat life but then "s"atan offers us the key for easier life, to control the "Universe". The question is; Will you accept it? Remember that we are part of that universe and we can't really own it. An hey, who needs Jesus anyway if you can have it all by the power of mind. It's a self reliance trick and People are starting to be guided by the book, not by the Word of God. God says the "Truth" will set us free, not "The Seret".

As for me, I am just an inch away of accepting it, I was about to fall for it unconsciously. "s"atan's attempts of trickery is really good but not good enough to get me. Thank you so much Jesus.

* The secret behind "The Secret". Celebrating success with fire
*I did'nt capitalized the "s" in satan's name because he doesn't have the right to be respected at all.
*Don't ask me about this post because I already surpass it. My intent of posting this is to warn people. Certain people.
* BTW I'm a Musician by profession and I thanked God for giving me this talent. I have my own house, a loving girlfriend, and family lots of friends, and again I thank God for that. I can buy gadgets almost whatever i planned to buy I get it. I always ask God to give me the power to sustain the will and determination and you know what, it's working great.

 
At 2:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's an evil lure. "s"atan has a Ph.D on disguising himself into things. Do a further research and investigation and you will see what's behind that flowery words. We cannot cheat life but then "s"atan offers us the key for easier life, to control the "Universe". The question is; Will you accept it? Remember that we are part of that universe and we can't really own it. An hey, who needs Jesus anyway if you can have it all by the power of mind. It's a self reliance trick and People are starting to be guided by the book, not by the Word of God. God says the "Truth" will set us free, not "The Seret".

As for me, I am just an inch away of accepting it, I was about to fall for it unconsciously. "s"atan's attempts of trickery is really good but not good enough to get me. Thank you so much Jesus.

* The secret behind "The Secret". Celebrating success with fire
*I did'nt capitalized the "s" in satan's name because he doesn't have the right to be respected at all.
*Don't ask me about this post because I already surpass it. My intent of posting this is to warn people. Certain people.
* BTW I'm a Musician by profession and I thanked God for giving me this talent. I have my own house, a loving girlfriend, and family lots of friends, and again I thank God for that. I can buy gadgets almost whatever i planned to buy I get it. I always ask God to give me the power to sustain the will and determination and you know what, it's working great.

 
At 2:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's an evil lure. "s"atan has a Ph.D on disguising himself into things. Do a further research and investigation and you will see what's behind that flowery words. We cannot cheat life but then "s"atan offers us the key for easier life, to control the "Universe". The question is; Will you accept it? Remember that we are part of that universe and we can't really own it. An hey, who needs Jesus anyway if you can have it all by the power of mind. It's a self reliance trick and People are starting to be guided by the book, not by the Word of God. God says the "Truth" will set us free, not "The Seret".

As for me, I am just an inch away of accepting it, I was about to fall for it unconsciously. "s"atan's attempts of trickery is really good but not good enough to get me. Thank you so much Jesus.

* The secret behind "The Secret". Celebrating success with fire
*I did'nt capitalized the "s" in satan's name because he doesn't have the right to be respected at all.
*Don't ask me about this post because I already surpass it. My intent of posting this is to warn people. Certain people.
* BTW I'm a Musician by profession and I thanked God for giving me this talent. I have my own house, a loving girlfriend, and family lots of friends, and again I thank God for that. I can buy gadgets almost whatever i planned to buy I get it. I always ask God to give me the power to sustain the will and determination and you know what, it's working great.

 
At 3:37 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i love it pl\c join me

 

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